Jan. 2, 2024

Missing at the Holidays

Missing at the Holidays
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This episode is a bit different. This week we'll be highlighting some missing persons cases from all over the country: Jason Landry, Vladek Hasel, Daniel Robinson, Ryan Shtuka, Kay-Alana Turner, and Oakley Carlson. Please listen and share their stories. Every share can get the families closer to answers.

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The following The episode discusses topics related to

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domestic violence, including detailed accounts and
descriptions that some listeners might find distressing or

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triggering. Listener discretion is advised.
As of twenty twenty three, there are

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approximately twenty three thousand, five hundred
and seventy six open missing person cases in

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the United States. Each year,
more than six hundred thousand people are reported

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missing in the US. While a
large number of these cases are resolved relatively

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quickly, a significant number remain open. For instance, in twenty twenty one,

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out of five hundred and twenty one
seven hundred and five reported missing person

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cases, more than four hundred and
eighty five thousand were resolved within the year.

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However, more than twenty thousand missing
person cases remained open. These figures

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demonstrate the complexity and scale of missing
person cases in the United States, with

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a notable portion remaining unsolved each year. Hi, and Welcome to Sins and

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Survivors, a Las Vegas true crime
podcast where we focus on cases that deal

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with domestic violence. I'm your host
Sean, and with me, as always

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is the one and only John.
I am the only John in the room.

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In this week's episode, we're going
to change the normal format and talk

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about some cases that we've learned about
in the past year. Many of us

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are gathering with family this time of
year, but unfortunately, many families will

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have empty seats at their tables,
which is obviously very, very difficult.

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All the cases we're going to talk
about today are unsolved cases. Jason Landry,

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Vladick Castle, Daniel Robinson, Ryan
Shduka, kay Alana Turner, and

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Oakley Carlson are all considered missing and
all of their families are desperately searching for

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answers on their loved ones. Whereabouts
will also share what you can do to

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help in the efforts to locate them
or raise awareness of the cases. So

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the first case we're going to talk
about is Jason Landry. Jason Landry has

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been missing since December fifteenth, twenty
twenty. The three year anniversary of his

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disappearance just passed in the past week. He was twenty one years old when

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he disappeared. Born on July twenty
ninth, nineteen ninety nine, Jason is

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the youngest child of Kent and Lisa
Landry. Jason has an older brother and

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sister. Jason's been called a prankster
of fun loving guy, someone who is

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outgoing, extroverted and just loves being
around peace people. I know his favorite

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candy is Swedish fish. When you
visit his family's Facebook page about his disappearance,

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they've just done a beautiful job documenting
little moments of Jason's history, including

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a photo from every one of his
birthdays from one year old all the way

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to twenty one years old, with
the cakes and the gifts that made him

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smile. It's beautiful and you really
get a sense of the kind of guy

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he is. He was last seen
on Salt Flat Road in Luling, Texas,

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which is between San Antonio and Houston, and the circumstances of what happened

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to him is that at the time
Jason was a student at Texas State University

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and it was the holiday time.
Winter break was coming up and he was

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driving home to Houston to spend the
holidays with his family. He drove a

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tan Nissan Ultima and as he was
driving, he was using the Ways app

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to navigate, and he had left
campus pretty late that night, around eleven

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o'clock and according to police, about
a half hour into his drive, Jason

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got to Luling, Texas and as
he's driving, he stops using Ways and

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begins to use Snapchat, and the
police say shortly after that his digital footprint

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just ends. What the police think
happened is that Jason made a wrong turn.

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He should have turned right onto Magnolia
Boulevard, but instead he went straight

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through that intersection and ended up on
Salt Flat Road, which is a very

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secluded road. So at twelve thirty
one am, his car was discovered.

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The lights were on, the keys
were in the ignition, and the investigation

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led them to make the conclusion that
Jason overcorrected while he was driving on that

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gravel road. He spun out,
crashed into a tree and a barbed wire

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fence. His rear window of the
car was broken. Because they believe he

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hit the tree. The investigators found
items belonging to Jason placed in the road

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about one hundred yard from the crash. It appeared as if Jason had stripped

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out of his clothing, including his
watch that had been placed neatly on the

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ground, and he walked away from
the car, leaving behind all his belongings

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such as his backpack, laptop,
toilet trees, his cell phone. He

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had some kind of what's been described
as gaming equipment with him, so I'm

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not sure if that was like a
PlayStation or xbox or switch, but all

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of that was left in the car. They found a little bit of blood

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on the shorts that were in the
street, but not like a scary amount.

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They would think that he was massively
injured. They think that maybe he

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scratched himself on the barbed wire fence
when he was getting out of the car.

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There were nine days of searches in
the area immediately after the accident,

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but Jason was not found, and
in February twenty six, twenty twenty one,

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Texas Search and Rescue did a three
day search with more than one hundred

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volunteers. They covered more than thirty
one thousand acres They used dogs, people

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on horseback, drones, sonar,
helicopters, and even searched underwater. But

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Jason is still missing, and just
this past October they did another search and

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nothing has turned up. John and
I got to hear directly from Jason's family

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at the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast
Festival this past August. You can learn

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more about Jason's story if you listen
to podcasts such as Voices for Justice,

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Weird True Crime, and Navigating Advocacy. Jason at the time he disappeared six

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foot one, weighing about one hundred
and seventy pounds. He's a white male

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with brown hair and brown eyes.
At the time of his disappearance, his

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hair was a little bit longer,
it was a medium length, and he

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had a goatee and his family has
said that he has a scar on his

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ankle. And his family is really
asking for more leads. They need people

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to print and post up flyers of
Jason wherever you can, wherever you can

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permission to post flyers, or they
recommend they have a QR link to their

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missing person's flyer, and they recommend
you could print that out and put it

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maybe in your car window and people
could see it and then scan it with

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their phone and then they get a
digital version of the flyer so they can

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share it with other people. The
family in the community that surrounds Jason's family,

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they want to find Jason. They
just endured the three year anniversary with

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no answers. So please listeners follow
the Missing Person Jason Landry facebook page and

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show this family some support and if
you know anything, the family is essentially

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begging you to leave a tip.
You can leave an anonymous tip because they

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really want to find Jason. So
next up, we'll talk about Brian Vladick

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Hassle. He never really went by
Brian, so I'm just going to call

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him Vladik. So he has been
missing since November six, twenty twenty one,

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and he was missing from Orlando,
Florida. First, we want to

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give a little background about Vladik,
and we're covering these cases very quickly.

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There's a lot more detail to each
of these cases, and we really recommend

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that you check out some of the
podcasts that go into much more detail about

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the individual stories. This is just
sort of the highlights that we're giving here

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and to highlight that they're missing,
and then the calls to action about what

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you can do. So, Vladick
and his older sister, Arena, were

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adopted from Russia in two thousand and
four. Vladik was five and Arena was

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eleven. They both experienced some pretty
intense neglect in their home life and while

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living in this orphanage in Russia,
and they were adopted into an American household,

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and again, the other podcasts will
go into a lot more detail about

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their families and their family relationships and
all that important stuff. Their adoptive parents

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divorced in two thousand and eleven,
which was extremely disruptive for him and his

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sister. And his sister actually ended
up moving out after the divorce at only

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about age sixteen, and this was
adding trauma onto what was what they had

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previously endured before they before they had
been adopted. So he was last verifiably

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seen at a Foxtail Coffee, which
is a chain coffee place in Georgia and

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Florida, the one on University Boulevard
in Orlando on November sixth, twenty twenty

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one. There are some alleged sightings
of Vladik as late as the fifteenth of

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November, with claims that people said
that he was saying things like he was

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going off the grid. And one
of the things that a couple of the

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podcasts that we listened to about Vladik
mentioned that he often talked about walking off

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into the woods and he wanted to
go live in the woods, and especially

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you know, in his la years, you know, getting closer and closer

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to twenty twenty one, he started
talking about these things. He talked about

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living off the grid. He even
talked at one point about walking you know,

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walking away into the Appalachian Trail,
which of course was you know,

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very very concerning to his family.
He started acting quite differently in twenty twenty

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one, according to his family and
from the interviews that I listened to,

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and he started doing things like giving
away his possessions. At one point he

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smashed his cell phone, and he
also developed a fixation on heaven and had

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a bit of a focus on religion
as well. So it seemed clear that

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he had some undiagnosed trauma from his
background in Russia absolutely, and also the

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divorce of his adoptive parents, and
that also that he was experiencing some mental

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health challenges. And we first heard
about his disappearance listening to the Vanish podcast.

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It's episode three fifty three, so
we really recommend you go check that

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out. Over an hour long and
it goes into a really in a mess

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amount of detail, and they actually
talked to a couple of his sisters about

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the case. Vladeck was five'ot
eight, between two hundred and ten and

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two hundred and thirty pounds. He
had dark blonde hair, blue eyes.

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The family is asking that you spread
awareness by sharing his poster and they they

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say, and we agree, it
doesn't really matter where you live. Sharing

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his poster on whether you print it
out and put it up or you share

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it on your Facebook feed, to
raise awareness of his disappearance, get his

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picture out there. They also have
a link tree that we will share in

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our show notes with helpful links.
And if you have any information about Flatte's

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disappearance, please call the Orange County
Sheriff's Office at four oh seven eight three

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six four three five seven. Next, I want to talk about Daniel Robinson.

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I first heard about Daniel Robinson at
Crime Con in twenty twenty two.

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I actually was able to hear Daniel's
father speak about Daniel's case, and I

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think that it's really important that we
keep sharing it and keeping Daniel's name out

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there because he still has not been
found. He's been missing since June twenty

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third, twenty twenty one, so
it's been about two and a half years.

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David was twenty four years old at
the time of his disappearance. He

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disappeared from Buckeye, Arizona, which
is just west of Phoenix. Daniel is

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a geologist, so the day he
went missing, he was at work.

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He was out at a work site
in the desert near Buckeye, Arizona,

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and a coworker reported that he left
the work site about fifteen minutes after arriving.

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He was driving in his twenty seventeen
blue gray Jeep Renegade, and he

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was heading out into the desert when
he was last seen. On Tuesday,

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July nineteen teenth, twenty twenty one. Daniel's vehicle was found about two and

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a half miles from the work site
in a remote part of the desert.

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It was flipped over and in a
ravine. His clothing was also found in

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the car. The airbags were deployed. His cell phone his keys were also

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in the car. The Buckeye Police
Department did a search by ground and drone

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but no trace of Daniel was found, and this event happened very close to

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the Gabby Petito disappearance. Later,
Gabby was tragically found murdered. But when

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I first heard about it at Crime
con, Daniel's case was obviously one where

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there was a discrepancy in the resources
and media attention. Daniel went missing just

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a month before Gabby did. He's
twenty four, she's twenty two, but

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her disappearance was taking over. Everyone
was talking about Gabby while Daniel was missing,

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and folks were not focused on finding
him. I got to hear,

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as I said, from Daniel's father. His father's name is David, talk

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about his efforts to locate Daniel.
He has poured his whole heart and soul

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into this. Other podcasts that have
covered this in more details so you can

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hear and learn more about Daniel voices
for Justice, Jen Y, many others.

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His family describes him as having a
real sense of adventure. He's five

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foot eight. He's an African American
man. He weighed one hundred and sixty

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five pounds at the time of his
disappearance. He has black hair and brown

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eyes, and he was born missing
part of his right forearm, including his

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hand, and Daniel's father is fiercely
passionate about finding Daniel. He believes the

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police did not do enough when this
first happened to help find him, and

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he has spent a lot of money
funding searches, and at least twice David's

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searches have turned up the remains of
other individuals, so's he's in the right

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area. He's searching wherever he can, spending a lot of money doing this,

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and he could really use the support. He relocated to Arizona from his

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home in South Carolina because, as
he says, he wants his boots on

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the ground looking for Daniel. He
says, quote, I cannot stop searching

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for my son. I cannot stop
making sure he receives a justice he deserves

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and the respect he deserves. So
when you visit the website, please help

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find Daniel dot com. Please help
find Daniel dot com. You can donate

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to his GoFundMe that helps fund these
private searches. You can sign up to

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search yourself or volunteer to help in
other ways, and you can also print

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flyers you can send if you know
anything about his disappearance, you can send

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in a tip on the website or
call the tip line at eight four four

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six h two zero six to zero. And David has a YouTube channel where

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he shares information updates on Daniel's case
all the time, so I recommend you

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subscribe and take a look at that
as well. So the next one is

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definitely a bit of a mystery.
This is the story of Ryan Stuka.

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disappearance, and I'll mention those in
a minute. It's definitely a mystery and

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it invites speculation that's not really something
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you go check those out for sure, and I'll list them in just a

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minute. So Ryan Stuko was born
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he went missing from sun Peaks Ski
resort in British Columbia in twenty eighteen February

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seventeenth, twenty eighteen. And again
it's hard to overstate how weird this one

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is and how much of a mystery
this one is. Ryan was working and

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living at sun Peaks. He decided
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passion of snowboarding for a season.
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his friends and they were at what's
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listening to the same music on their
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into the room, there's no music
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Sounds like fun. I've never done
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be a lot of fun. So
he went with his friends and around between

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one thirty and two am, they
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he was coming with them. They've
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that he would be right behind them, And they headed up between one thirty

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and two am from this party,
and when they got outside and they started

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walking home, they looked behind them
and he wasn't there. And he hasn't

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been seen since. There were people
who showed up at the party at two

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thirty or two thirty or so in
the morning and they report not seeing him

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there. There has never been any
evidence of foul play. Important to note

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that this happened at ski resort,
and the night this happened, there was

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I believe eight inches of snowfall that
night. So again, this whole thing

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invites a lot of speculation, but
It's an interesting one to look at how

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the ski resort is laid out and
the very few places that he could possibly

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have gone in the course of that
very small window of time. We first

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found out about this case from Hailey
Gray, amazing researcher, and the two

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podcasts that I listened to that covered
it were True North True Crime, which

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I love. They focus on true
crime in Canada, really great stuff and

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do a lot of coverage of Indigenous
people and disappearances and navigating advocacy another great

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one. Ryan was twenty years old
at the time of his disappearance. He

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was described as six feet tall,
lean, athletic, about one hundred and

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eighty pounds, which I guess you'd
expect from a young guy that's living on

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a ski resort and snowboarding for a
season, totally get it. Blonde hair,

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brown eyes, and he was last
seen wearing dark jeans, a blue

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coat and a burgundy baseball cap.
His parents are Heather and Scott and he

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has two younger sisters. So the
family is asking that you again share his

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story. You can join the Facebook
group, which we will share the link

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for, and if you have any
information, you can contact the Kamloops,

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Royal Canadian Mounted Police or crime stoppers
with information. And another thing that will

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be participating in is his family really
appreciates when Ryan liked dinosaurs, so they

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have this tradition where people travel with
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small green dinosaur and you leave him
places to raise awareness of Ryan's disappearance and

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travel with him, takes photos with
him, and it's just another way to

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spread the word. So we'll be
doing that on our trip that's coming up

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soon, and then we will send
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she will hopefully do the same thing, and we'll provide links just like the

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other ones, so you can you
can help the family out. Hi.

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the next case I'm going to talk
about is kay Alana Turner. And as

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John said, when we came up
with the idea for this episode, we

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asked our colleagues in the true crime
community what cases they thought could use some

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more attention, that the families could
use a little extra support, And there

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were so many names that were shared, but kay Alana came from the team

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at Weird True Crime. They asked
us to include kay Alana's story and we

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are happy to do so. Kay
Alana is missing, actually relatively recently compared

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to these other cases. She's only
been missing since March tenth, twenty twenty

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three, so it hasn't even been
a year. She went missing from a

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town called Tomball, Texas, which
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disappeared. It was about a month
before her twenty eighth birthday. Kay Alana

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is a musician from Beaumont, Texas, and her Instagram is still up.

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Her family did take it over to
make some posts about her disappearance, but

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you can watch videos of her playing
the theremin, which is a really cool

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instrument to watch somebody play, and
acoustic guitar. I watched a couple videos

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of her covering No Doubt and The
Bleachers. She's really talented, really charming,

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and I hope you check out her
Instagram because I think she's got this

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great personality. So on the evening
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kay Alana was staying at a friend's
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she lives in Sillsby, Texas.
So for reference, this is about an

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hour and a half northeast of Houston
and about one hundred miles from Tomball,

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Texas, where kay Alana was last
seen. So on the morning of March

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tenth, Brittany, the friend leaves
for work and she assumes that Kayalana is

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just you know, still in bed
sleeping. But later that morning, Kayalana

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is seen on the doorbell camera walking
in front of Britney's house and knocking on

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the door and looking very confused,
and Brittany doesn't know why she didn't just

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go back in the house because Kayalana
knew the code to the door. It

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had been the same for years.
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the neighborhood. She was seen on
other ring cameras going door to door in

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the neighborhood, knocking on the door, and then Kaylana got into her car

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and drove off, and Brittany and
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but there was a lot of confusion
and just kind of contradictory, contradictory communication

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between the three of them. We
don't need to go into all those details,

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but her family has mentioned that Kaylana
had begun taking some new medication and

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it's possible that she hadn't slept in
a few days, which may sort of

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explain how she was a little bit
confused or disoriented. So that day,

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Kaylana contacted a friend that lives in
Austin, Texas, and she asked for

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directions to his house, and it's
assumed that she got lost or confused or

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perhaps thought she was in Austin,
because she stopped in a neighborhood in Hockley,

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Texas, which is about thirty five
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and she begins ringing doorbells and looking
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it's three point thirty in the morning, so she drives away again before

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the police could make contact with her, and around six am, a homeowner

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in Tomball, Texas, finds her
asleep in their driveway and she was sleeping

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very heavily. Her family says she
sleeps like a rock and the homeowner couldn't

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wake her, and the whole event
drew a crowd in the neighborhood. The

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homeowner notified his hoa. There was
an officer from the Harris County Sheriff's office

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who showed up, and he finally
woke her up, and she was startled,

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and she seemed kind of to be
in like a sleepwalking state, and

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she tried to drive away across the
lawn of the house, which she was

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blocked by another car that was parked
out front, and so the officer used

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a two by four to break the
window and attempt to get control of the

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car, so this obviously frightened Kaylana
even more. She drove through a pasture

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and into the woods about a half
a mile and then her car got stuck

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in the mud and she just got
out and went on foot. She left

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behind her phone and her purse.
She made it to a creek called Spring

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Creek. She left her shoes behind
as she crossed the creek on a log,

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and it's been noted that her shoes
were full of the glass from the

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broken window. She ran through another
person's pasture and a yard and likely made

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it to Decker Prairie Rose Hill Road, so she ran across these pastures in

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the woods and into another residential area. The police used a helicopter to try

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and locate her or her heat signature, but they couldn't. Her parents reported

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her missing, but the police initially
canceled the missing person's report and listed her

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as a fugitive instead because she had
ran from the police, which delayed searches.

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She is listed as a missing person
now, but her family and I

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believe that that shouldn't have ever happened. As of now, there are no

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leads, but it's possible that when
she reached the road that she may have

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hitchhiked gotten a ride from someone.
You can hear more about this case on

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the Vanished podcast or Missing Even.
Crawl Space did an episode on Kayalana.

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She has brown hair in the photos
her hair that I saw. Her hair

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is very long and straight, and
she has blue eyes. She's five four

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and weighs about one fifteen one twenty. She's twenty eight years old and when

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she was last seen, she was
wearing a hot pink maxi dress or what

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some call described as a hot pink
gown, and she had no shoes on.

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She has multiple tattoos, including the
number twelve above a red bow on

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her right collarbone, and the phrase
Jesus lived and died for all your sins.

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Damn right, He'll rise again on
her back again. She was last

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seen near Decker Prairie rose Hill Road, which is near Highway two forty nine,

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which crosses over into Montgomery County,
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facing their first holiday season without her. They have posted on Kayalana's Facebook page

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that kay loved Christmas, she kept
it in her heart all year long,

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and that she was always looking for
ways to do something good for someone and

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help someone in need. They are
having a very hard time keeping their traditions

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going this year. You can help
them out by printing and distributing flyers,

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liking their Facebook page, and donating
to their GoFundMe, and all the links

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will be in the show notes.
The last one we're going to talk about

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is Oakley Carlson. We're doing a
special feed drop episode next week where we're

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going to have true crime cases with
Laney's episode on Oakley Carlson in our feed.

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So Laney did an amazing job talking
about Oakley's case. She goes into

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a great deal of detail about the
case. So please come back for that

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next week and listen to that get
all the details. So Oakley Carlson was

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born on December sixth, two thousand
and sixteen, in Oakville, Washington,

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and she has been missing since February
tenth, twenty twenty one. And again

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we're going to keep it high level
here. She was born to her biological

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parents, Jordan Bowers and Andrew Carlson, and her parents have a long history

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of substance abuse. And Andrew has
a history of domestic violence. He was

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booked for assault and domestic violence in
twenty eighteen after Oakley had been removed from

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their care. Oakley was fostered by
Jamie, Joe and Eric Hiles and lived

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with them for two years. The
Hiles home, unlike Jordan and Andrew's home,

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was an extremely loving and supportive environment
for Oakley, and the Hiles had

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set in motion actually adopting her.
Unfortunately, though, she was returned to

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her biological parents despite an absolutely staggering
array of red floh going on in the

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home, and by twenty twenty her
biological parents kept her from the Hiles entirely

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and we really know nothing about what
happened that year. There were several incidents

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as late as December twenty twenty,
where after Oakley had been returned to her

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parents' care, it was reported that
she did not look well. She looked

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very pale, and February tenth,
twenty twenty one, was the last credible

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sighting of Oakley. Six months later, Andrew reported a fire in their home

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on November sixth, twenty twenty one. It was very weird. He called

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the fire department but said they didn't
need a response. He just wanted it

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on the record for insurance, and
he blamed Oakley for the fire. So

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between between then and now, several
CPS reports were filed by the Hiles and

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ignored. Oakley's elementary school principal,
Jessica did some investigating and got the sense

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that something was very, very wrong
and she was very understandably concerned that she

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hadn't seen Oakley in a long time. Eventually, Jordan and Andrew were booked

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for obstruction of justice and on suspicion
of manslaughter. There were blood spatters found

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in the home and they were also
charged with neglect for not giving their children

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vital medications. Various interviews with their
other children led the police to believe that

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Oakley had been murdered. Andrew was
given twelve months in prison but was released

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early, and Jordan was given twenty
months in prison. And what the family's

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asking, and when I say the
family, I mean her adoptive family,

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that you share Oakley's story and her
flyers, and we will share the website

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where you can go and learn more
and find the flyer and join the Oakley

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Carlson Oakville, Washington Facebook group and
donate to the reward fund too. There's

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currently I think an eighty five thousand
dollars reward for information leading to information about

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what happened to Oakley, and you
can also voice your opinion to the Washington

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DCYF Secretary Ross Hunter, and we
will provide his email address for that.

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These are just a few of the
many stories that are out there. Navigating

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Advocacy dedicated their entire month of December
to covering a different missing person each day.

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They asked us to cover the Caleb
deal case, which I felt we

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couldn't do well in this short format
we're doing for this episode, but we

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will add the link to the Bring
Caleb Home Facebook page and to Navigating Advocacies

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episode on him as well. Our
friends at PNW Haunson Homicides covered the Highway

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of Tears story of missing and murdered
Indigenous women in that area, the reports

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of how many women have been murdered
or went missing in this area at least

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forty and the Wikipedia article I looked
at real quick lists well over sixty women

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ranging in age from infant to eighty
nine years old, going missing along the

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Highway from nineteen seventy until today.
And we're hoping to collaborate with PNW in

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the new year on a special episode
on missing and murdered Indigenous women. Leon

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Laurelis's family, Gabby Petito's family,
Katie Palmer's family, Alyss Attorney's family,

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and of course to the families of
the cases we've covered this year, Camille

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Dardaines Dotson, Tiffany Booth, Tabitha
Tozi, Fukeo dej Odem and her children,

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and Mason Dominguez's family too. In
just a few months, Maura Murray's

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family will mark the twenty year anniversary
of her still unsolved disappearance. Sean and

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I will be taking a break next
week, but we will be bringing you

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true crime stories with Lady's episode on
Oakley. We just started this podcast journey

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and we appreciate the connections we have
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say thank you to our podcast colleagues
who are passionate about justice for families and

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keep these names out there and support
these families in their darkest times. As

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we say, what happens here happens
everywhere. Thanks as always for listening,

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and we wish you all the best
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