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Hi, and welcome to Sins and Survivors, a Las Vegas
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true crime podcast where we cover cases that deal with
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domestic violence, as well as missing persons and unsolved cases.
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I'm your host Sean.
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And I'm your co host John.
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In part one of our flashback episode about Debbie Flores Narvaez,
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we left off with Debbie still missing and her Panic
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sister Celeste staying here in Las Vegas over the holidays
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to search for her. In Part two, the search for
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Debbie heats up and the reality of what happened to
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her is discovered by Metro Police. One of the key
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breaks in the case came from someone who we called
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Jessica in this episode to protect her identity. At the
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time we recorded, we and a lot of other people
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were under the impression that she was just an ex
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girlfriend of blues.
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Since then, though, the news media have shared her identity why,
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and We've decided to share it here too. In the flashback,
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her real name is Calai Casorso, and at the end
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of the episode we'll explain more about how deeply entangled
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with Blue she really was. The case was shocking, but
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so was what we eventually learned about Calay. But for now,
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here's our remastered original coverage of Part two of The
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Last Dance.
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In part one of Debbie's story, her star was on
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the rise. The dance number she had poured her heart
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into was about to debut on the Vegas Strip. Debbie
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had worked tirelessly for months and built the performance from
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the ground up. Her friends and family were concerned when
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Debbie missed the final rehearsals, and they knew something was
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horribly wrong when she never showed up for opening night.
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Las Vegas Metro had questioned her on again, off again
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boyfriend Jason Griffith, who was likely the last person to
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have seen Debbie before her disappearance. He cooperated with the police,
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but his history of domestic violence incidents had the Las
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Vegas community on edge.
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Where was Debbie? Hi?
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And Welcome to Sins and Survivors, a Las Vegas true
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crime podcast where we focus on cases that deal with
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domestic violence.
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I'm your host, Sean, and I'm your co host John.
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Thanks for joining us for part two of Debbie's story.
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If you haven't had a chance yet to listen to
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part one, we recommend you go give that a listen
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now before diving in here. When we left off on
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part one, the Las Vegas Metro Police Department didn't have
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any new leads on Debbie's disappearance and they needed someone
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to come forward with information. Debbie was last seen on
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December twelfth, twenty ten. Debbie's car was found two days later,
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abandoned with no plates. Debbie's phone and computer were inside
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and untouched since December twelfth, but nothing on in or
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around the car offered any answers as to where Debbie
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had gone or what had happened to Her roommate said
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that she left their condo on December twelfth planning to
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go watch the Dexter finale with her boyfriend, Jason. Jason
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said he did see her briefly that night, but stated
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she had gone to hang out with friends, and he
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told police that she may have been considering ending her
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life because she was distraught over their breakup. Celese, Debbie's sister,
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had forgne spending the holidays with her two young children instead.
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She felt she had no choice but to spend the
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holidays in Vegas searching for Debbie. Celeus was quoted by
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Channel eight News Now saying, I don't get to see
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my kids, I don't get to see her, I don't
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get to be with my family. It's just another day
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for me. It's not Christmas, even my book. My family's incomplete,
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and I'm just trying to put them back together again.
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On January fifth, the police received the tip they were
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looking for a witness had information relevant to the case
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and wanted to speak to detectives. The witness chose to
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approach a friend of hers who had a connection to
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a Metro Police officer, who then brought the information to
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the lead detective on the case. It's a little bit
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of a game of telephone for reasons that will become
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clear in a minute. The witness who were going to
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call Jessica was an ex girlfriend of Jason's. The two
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of them remained friendly although they had broken up. I
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want to add that this person is yet another girl
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friend of Jason's that he was dating while he was
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dating Debbie, and while he was also married. Do we
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mention that yes, we discovered Jason was actually married this
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whole time. He was married in Reno in two thousand
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and six. According to Jessica, on December fourteenth, Jason called
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her and asked if it was okay for him to
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store something at her house for a little while while
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he was getting ready to move to a new place.
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She told him that it would be fine if she
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had the room. She was shocked when he pulled up
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to her house with a huge U haul because she
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wasn't expecting to store a lot of items for him.
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Jessica said, Jason wasn't alone. His roommate Lewis Colombo was
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with him. When they opened the U haul, there was
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just one item inside a large blue plastic storage tub.
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The tub didn't have a lid on it, and it
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was filled with a gray substance that she was sure
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was concrete. The concrete was bumpy on the top and
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the tub was bulging out a little on one side. Jessica,
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of course, was confused and was thinking, like, what's going
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on here. She decided to ask Jason what's in that tub.
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According to Jessica, Jason hesitated before he told her. His
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demeanor was are you sure you want to know? And
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finally he told her Debbie is in there. Jessica was
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horrified and terrified and told him to get the tub
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the fuck out of here. Jason and Lewis left with
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the truck, and Jessica did not contact the police right
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away because she was scared that whatever had happened to
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Debbie could happen to her. Jessica had decided to speak
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to a friend who had a connection to the police
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department so she could feel safe in making this anonymous tip.
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The police followed up on the tip by going to
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U haul rental locations close to Jason's house. They checked
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the rental agreements and surveillance footage and discovered that Jason
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and Lewis had rented a U haul truck with two
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utility dollies around eleven am on December fourteenth. The truck
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was returned outside of normal business hours very early in
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the morning of December sixteen. Jason and Lewis were seen
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on surveillance video leaving the keys to the truck in
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the dropbox. The rental truck had a GPS inside it
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that allowed the police to track the movements of the
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U Haul during the rental period. It had been parked
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overnight on December fourteenth at a Flying J truck stop
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location in Vegas. This was particularly important because it connected
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to another piece of evidence that the police had collected
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back in December but had not revealed to the press,
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her family or to the news media. On December twenty second,
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the police had executed a search warrant of Jason's home
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and recovered a receipt from a Flying J truck stop
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that showed the purchase of sponges and bleach made on
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December fifteenth.
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On January seventh, twenty eleven, Jason's roommate Lewis, was interviewed
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by homicide detectives. Lewis agreed to talk so long as
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he would be immune from arrest in prosecution. The police
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agreed to Lewis's conditions, probably because the police aren't the
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ones that make the deals the district attorneys due, but
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in any event, Lewis was reassured and he gave his statement.
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According to lu Leuis, Debbie did come to his in
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Jason's house on the evening of December twelfth to watch Dexter,
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as Debbie had told her roommate she was going to do.
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Later that evening, Debbie and Jason got into an argument,
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and Jason grabbed Debbie by the throat and began strangling her.
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According to the police report, Lewis quote had to pull
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Griffith off of Flora's narvaez because he was choking her
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with his hands around her neck. Lewis broke up the
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fight and was able to get the two of them
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to calm down. He had to leave the apartment around
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eight twenty pm to meet up with his girlfriend. He
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said that at ten thirty pm he received a text
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from Jason that said not to bring his girlfriend back
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to the house. When Lewis got back home, Jason met
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him at the front door and told him this was
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a changer diaper moment.
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Lewis entered the house and saw Debbie lying on the
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floor with a plastic bag on her face. Lewis went
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to the bathroom and threw up, and when he returned
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he could tell that Debbie was dead. She wasn't breathing,
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and she was cold to the touch. According to Louis,
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Jason then to told him that Debbie head said that
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her throat was hurting and she wanted to call for
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an ambulance. That was when Jason grabbed her from behind
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and choked her until she died. Lewis explained how he
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and Jason discussed what to do with Debbie's body. They
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purchased a tub and concrete, mixed up the concrete in
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their garage, bit Debbie's body into the tub, and encased
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her in the concrete. The combined weight of the filled
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tub was seven hundred pounds. Lewis confirmed the details that
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Jessica had shared. Louis and Jason rented the U haul
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and the dollies and brought the tub to Jessica's house,
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but she refused to let them store the tub there.
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They had also attempted to store the tub at an
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undisclosed building, but were unable to move it to the
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second floor, probably because it weighed seven hundred pounds. They
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then parked the U haul truck at the Flying J
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truck stop overnight. The next day, Jason got the keys
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to a house that belonged to some friends who were
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out of the country. Lewis brought the tub to that
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house by himself and noticed that it had started leaking
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when he moved it into the house. He ended up
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leaving it there for a few days.
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This next part of what Lewis told the police is
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particularly gruesome and horrifying. Jason and Lewis went to Walmart
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to purchase additional tubs, tools, and concrete. They returned to
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the house where Lewis had left the tub and chiseled
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Debbi out of the concrete, dismembered her, and placed her
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in two separate tubs, and once again covered her with concrete.
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They placed the tubs in a closet of the house
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and sealed the door shut with spray foam insulation. They
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gathered up their tools and sealed those inside of a
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different closet in the house. They left the broken pieces
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of concrete and the blue bin on the floor of
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the living room. Lewis told the police where to find
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the house. The police obtained a search warrant, and when
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they entered the home, they found the broken concrete pieces,
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the blue bin, and the sealed up closets, just as
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Lewis had described, and in one of the closets were
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the two bins containing Debbie's remains. The police also conducted
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further investigation into Jason. They discovered that in November of
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twenty ten, a friend of Jason's had reported to the
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North Las Vegas Police Department that Jason had sent him
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a text that indicated that Jason was contemplating ending his
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own life. The police did a welfare check on Jason,
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and they placed him on a legal two thousand hold,
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which gives the police a medical professionals the ability to
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hold a person who's in a mental health crisis in
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a mental health treatment facility for up to seventy two hours.
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Jason was brought to a hospital and released a short
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time later. Another ex girlfriend of Jason's came forward to
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the police and said that on December seventh or eighth
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of twenty ten, Jason had texted her and asked her
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if she knew where he could get a gun. She
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did not know what he wanted the gun for.
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On January eighth, twenty eleven, the police stopped Jason as
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he was leaving work at the Love Show around eleven
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fifty pm. They told him he wasn't under arrest, but
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they wanted to ask some more questions about Debbie's disappearance.
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He agreed to talk to them, but he commented that
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they hadn't read him his miranda rights. The officers read
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him his rights, and Jason signed a card acknowledging that
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that had happened and that he understood he was waiving
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his right to an attorney and his right to remain silent.
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Jason said that he didn't have anything to do with
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Debbie's death. He denied that he killed her on purpose
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or accidentally. He was questioned about the U haul, and
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he admitted to renting it, but he told the police
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that he needed the U haul to pick up a
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punching bag, stand and other workout equipment from a friend,
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although he wouldn't say who the friend was or where
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they lived. The officers then tried asking Jason about Debbie's
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body and some of the details Lewis had given them,
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but Jason refused to answer those questions without his attorney present.
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Police placed Jason under arrest and transported him to the
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Clark County Detention Center. While he was being transported, Jason
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allegedly said to the police officer that Debbie's death quote
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was not a premeditated thing, and quote it was a
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heat of the moment thing. He explained that he thought
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Debbie had a gun and that she had attacked him.