The Real Life Grinch - A True Crime Collab

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Shaun Hey everyone, happy Festivus, happy Christmas Eve, Eve, and welcome to Sins and Survivors. I'm your host, Shaun, and today we have another very special holiday treat for you all. Last week when I collaborated with Kristen of Murder, She Told and Javier from pretend for our True Crime Conversations episode. We had so much fun working together and that collab was such a hit that we decided to do it again, and this time with a festive twist. We're trading stories about what happens when holiday cheer goes criminally wrong. These are real cases with real people impacted, but they're also strange, absurd, and very much rooted in the chaos that seems to show up this time of year. And for those of you wondering, where's John? Stay tuned tomorrow when we have yet another surprise for everyone that you won't want to miss. So settle in, pour yourself your favorite beverage and join us for the real life Grinch, a holiday crossover episode with sins and survivors. Murder, She Told and pretend.

Javier Hey everyone, it's me, Javier Leyva, with the Pretend podcast, and I'm joined today by Kristen with the murder, She Told podcast, and Sean with the Sins and Survivors podcast. What are we doing this again?

Kristen We're doing this again.

Javier We got such great feedback from our last episode that we figured, hey, why not? Let's do this again, right? But this time it's Christmas and we should do a Christmas episode, right?

Kristen Yes. Agreed. Yeah.

Javier So today we are going to talk about real life Grinches. Okay. These are stories of Christmas gone wrong. And boy, do we have a doozy. Kristin, kind of give us a preview of the main story that we're going to talk about, which is just wild.

Kristen So this actually happened in Bangor, Maine, which is very, very close to me. Um, and it's a recent it was over Thanksgiving and I had. No, I have not heard about this before. You brought it to me. Um, by the way, I'm sick. This is not what I normally sound like. So thank you for bearing with me. But I mean, both of my stories are kind of home invasion stories with a Grinch twist, and I just think it's fascinating and a little bit terrifying.

Javier Let me add a little bit to your tease, because after we found this story and like you said, it just happened. Like just just happened. And I quickly whipped up an email to the Bangor Police Department asking for a records request, not knowing what I was gonna get. I was just like, hey, here's a suspect. Here's the the case file. Like, give me whatever you got. And like, Christmas morning, I got the files. And it is. It is crazy. You guys haven't seen it?

Kristen No, no.

Speaker 4 Get in here. Um.

Speaker 5 Let me in here.

Javier Oh my.

Speaker 5 God.

Javier I got body cam footage of the incident.

Kristen Oh my God.

Javier And so we'll talk about this. We're gonna save this story for last because it is a banger of a story.

Kristen Oh my God. I love though that this is so on brand for you. Like, I didn't even think to do that. And the fact that you were like, I'm gonna go get that body cam footage. Like, I'm so excited.

Kristen Yeah. Was there a dog dressed as a.

Shaun Reindeer in it in any of the.

Kristen Footage or.

Javier Uh, no, but there is a pet involved. There is a pet involved. Yes. And we're gonna get to that. It's such a crazy story, I can't wait. All right, so why don't we just jump in there? Kristen, why don't you tell us about the first story that we're going to talk about today?

Kristen All right, so the first one that I have for you is, uh, it's in a suburb of Dayton, Ohio. Um, it's. Please, I might be butchering this, but. Vandalia. Vandalia, Ohio.

Javier Sounds good to me.

Kristen I usually look up the names, and I'm very meticulous about it. I'm gonna say that I did not do that, but, um. Vandalia, Ohio, it's a suburb of Dayton. And this is in twenty eleven. And there was a resident who discovered somebody putting up Christmas decorations that broke into their home. So police said that the man was allegedly high on bath salts. And he entered this home and began hanging Christmas decor, which I kind of love him for that. Like, I mean, if you're going to break into a house on bath salts, like the best thing that you could do is just be like, I'm gonna go decorate for Christmas.

Javier Um, I don't can I be honest with you guys? I don't even know what bath salts are. It just sounds like something you get at bed, Bath and Beyond or something. But then the first time I ever heard about bath salts was that guy in Miami that ate the guy's face under the bridge, remember?

Kristen Yes.

Javier That story. And then I was like, oh, bath salts. They're a lot more menacing than I realized.

Kristen It's also kind of like a little time capsule because this case happens in twenty eleven. But I feel like back in twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. Bath salts were like the high, the go too high, and it was like a huge news thing where people were talking about bath salts and it's a cheap way to get high. And I don't know, it was a it was a trend for twenty eleven.

Kristen It made him be like an interior decorator.

Kristen Apparently.

Kristen Turned him into like a little Christmas elf.

Kristen I mean, like, I feel like with bath salts, you never know what you're gonna get. Like, you might eat someone's face off like a zombie, or you might get into the Christmas spirit.

Javier It's either way, great HGTV concept, right?

Kristen Right.

Kristen Yeah. True.

Kristen Decorating with bath salts, you know? Um, so Terry Trent, he's forty four and he was arrested on a burglary charge, and there was an eleven year old boy who found Trent sitting on the couch after he had decorated parts of the house. And police said that Trent entered through a back door and just made himself comfortable in the house. He lit candles on the coffee table. On the kitchen table. He turned on the TV. I really want to know what he was watching. I'm like, are we.

Javier A real story?

Kristen This is a real story. I'm like, where are we watching elf? Were we watching It's a Wonderful Life? Are we crying at the end of Home Alone two, when he gives her the ornament like, what are where are we? Um. He also hung up a Christmas wreath on the back garage door. So he's going all out like he's full on bath salt interior decorating.

Javier We're all envisioning Will Ferrell, right?

Kristen Like, yes. So yeah.

Kristen Definitely in the, uh, in the department store. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Hey, guys. Have you seen the place? It's pretty good. It's a little too good. Corporate must have sent in a professional.

Kristen Um, so then when the boy came in, he saw him watching TV and playing with his toys. And then he called his mom, who was next door at the neighbor's house. And the boy's mother told the police that he tried to apologize, and he was polite, and he was sorry that he scared the kid and he was arrested without incident, even though police did find that he was carrying a pocket knife.

Javier Oh, but that's, you know, to decorate with, right?

Kristen Yeah.

Kristen And no explanation. Like, he wasn't like he was like, oh, I thought this was my brother's house or anything like that. It was just totally, totally random.

Kristen Not that I'm aware of.

Kristen Swept up and just possessed by the Christmas spirit through these bastards. Wow.

Kristen He did. Um, a coworker did describe him as normally a very caring person. He's involved with Boy Scouts, he's involved with the local church program, and it just seems like he had, um, an off day. Or like.

Kristen Really on day? I mean, yeah.

Kristen I mean, I love I love Christmas decorating. So.

Kristen Yeah. Yeah. So he was like, here we go. Let's just let's just make it happen for this family.

Kristen I want to know if it looked good. Yeah, that's my question. So we should probably File a FOIA for the footage.

Javier Actually.

Shaun Yeah, for some pictures. Some pictures of the crime scene.

Javier I might I might actually do this.

Kristen You should. It's going to be like twenty eleven. Like digital camera photos probably. And not like body cam footage.

Javier So, Sean, what do you got? Do you have a story for us?

Shaun I do, I actually, I just came back from New York yesterday morning. So I actually have a New York City story for everyone. Um, yeah. It was a really great trip. I mean, New York is just so much hustle and bustle at the holidays. People just running around the lights, the tree, all the shopping. The story I have is actually from a part of town that I didn't get a chance to visit, which is the Upper East Side of Manhattan. So this happened in December of twenty twenty two. The NYPD had already been tracking Shenice Aviles, a woman that they knew was a serial burglar. So they saw her and she was going through the neighborhood and I guess trying doors, and she found one that was unlocked. So they kind of, you know, followed her to see what townhouse she was going in. And this was completely coincidental. This was totally random, but it was Robert De Niro's townhouse. So according to the police, she just walked in. The door wasn't locked, no alarm. There was no security. And then she just began taking the wrapped Christmas presents from underneath his tree and I guess playing with his iPad. Meanwhile, Robert De Niro is upstairs in the house asleep, and his daughter was at the house as well. And I just think to me, that is the most bizarre part of the story, I guess because he's such a famous A-lister that he was just in New York City with his door unlocked. I mean, it's it's not it's not unsafe, but it's definitely not one of those, um, you know, communities where people say we just leave our doors unlocked because it's so safe. So it's just that he was he was home, and the tree is lit and she just walks in and starts taking his gifts. But the police were like, basically right behind her. The thankfully, because the cops were there. The story ends peacefully. I don't know how it could have gone if he had come downstairs or heard something. I mean, I think we're all lucky, although, um, maybe she just would have been shocked and ran away, or it would have turned into some silly Christmas movie caper. But yeah, it just ends peacefully. I don't know how they manage to sleep through everything that happened, but she was arrested without incident. No one was hurt and Christmas continued on as planned. And I just was thinking, I don't know who the person was who left his door unlocked, but I am glad it wasn't me because I wouldn't have wanted to be yelled at by Robert De Niro.

Javier Well, you know, I could imagine if Robert De Niro would have been there. He would have been.

Speaker 8 You talking to me?

Speaker 9 Yeah, right.

Speaker 8 Talking to me.

Kristen I will say that, um, the Upper East Side is a fairly safe neighborhood. Um, I lived in New York City for a really long time. Um, and it's obviously a very wealthy zip code. ZIP codes. It's interesting, like who you might stumble on if you just, like, randomly pick a house because it's all. It's all rich people. Like, somebody is somebody. But it's funny that it's Robert De Niro just because he's so well known as opposed to like some, you know, hedge fund guy who who you don't know.

Shaun Yeah. And I wonder if she ever, um, brags about that. You know, people love to tell their, like, celebrity sighting stories. Like, I wonder if she's ever like, hey, guess what I did one time I broke.

Kristen I mean, I would. Yeah, like, I would brag about that.

Shaun Yeah. So it's, uh, like, again, like, I can't, I can't believe the the guts of some people at the holidays. They really are like Grinches, and they're just collecting people's Christmas gifts right from under their tree. But, um, thankfully, like I said, it is, I guess technically a home invasion, but, you know, one where no one was hurt, thank goodness.

Javier But apparently this is not her first time doing this, right? Like you said, she is a serial burglar. And yeah, this was just another gig for her, I'm sure. Um.

Kristen And it's.

Shaun Uh, it's interesting that they were. They were already tracking her. I think that probably prevented it from being something way more dramatic that they were right there. Although who knows what would have popped out. Who knows?

Kristen I kind of want to know what was on his iPad.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I know.

Shaun Yeah. What was she doing playing Candy crush or who knows?

Javier All right. So my story is next. And this is about three postal workers that really are just like the scum of the earth. What they're saying about these people and what their alleged crimes are true. I mean, they're just sick. They are stealing from underprivileged kids during Christmas. So I'll tell you how this worked. So you got three postal workers who are real Grinches, right? They were working in cahoots, I guess, making multiple copies of fake letters to Santa so they could get picked up by Secret Santa in Operation Santa program. Do you guys know about the Operation Santa program by the US Postal Service?

Kristen I don't, I don't know. I feel like I've heard of it, but I don't actually know.

Javier So Operation Santa is basically a program by the US Postal Service where they match up individuals, businesses, charities with children in need who write letters to Santa And the whole idea is that, you know, these kids can get gifts right during the holidays, but instead you have these three postal workers who are basically intercepting these letters. They're either writing the letters themselves, or they are actually printing out new labels with their address so that they could receive the gifts. So all of this happened during the twenty thirteen holiday season. One of the postal workers who was involved in this scheme received a printer, two laptop computers, two tablets, clothing, bedding, gift cards and other items. And one other guy got an iPad, laptop, headphones, boots. All of this is documented in court docs, by the way, and it is just crazy to believe that during this time period when there's kids who really need gifts, that there are some people in the post office thinking, hey, I know how to intercept this. I can make a couple bucks or get a bunch of free stuff if I could just steal gifts from underprivileged kids. I mean, it was just so gross.

Shaun And those are real high ticket, high priced items. We're not talking like Barbies and, like, Lego sets. We're like laptop computers. Yeah. Wow.

Kristen It's really sad. I mean, that's like the lowest of the low.

Javier Yeah, it's horrible, but I'm so glad that a program like this does exist, right?

Shaun Yeah. And there's way more. It helps. Way more people than, you know, than the fraud that occurred.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah.

Javier Well, hopefully the post office caught on to the to this scheme and is keeping a closer eye on this, but, uh, I say bah humbug to these guys.

Speaker 9 Yeah, seriously.

Javier Well, I kind of want to inject a story here that was not in our little prep doc, but this just happened to just a couple weeks ago, really. But it's about these prisoners now. The Grinch in this scenario, in this scenario, is the actual like prison, because some of these inmates have gotten pretty, pretty clever. And they used in South Carolina, they used drones to deliver crab legs, steaks to the prison. Oh. And weed. Oh, let me see whether.

Speaker 9 It was weed.

Javier Yeah, I think it was, um, because, you know, it goes really well with crab legs, old bay seasonings.

Speaker 9 Oh, so they were ready.

Javier Oh, and cartons of cigarettes. Because, you know, after a big meal like that, you need. So, uh. Yeah, I just thought it was so clever because you hear about, you know, we live in this day and age of drones now, and everyone knows that people in jail have contraband cell phones and stuff like that. So they're communicating with the outside. So they're just getting their buddies to drop weapons into the prison or like contraband and all this stuff. But like these guys, at least they were just trying to have like a little Christmas dinner. And, you know, the prison just came in and, uh, and, uh, swept it away. And it's going to be a bad, bad Christmas for the those South Carolina prisoners.

Kristen So who ordered it?

Javier I'm not sure.

Kristen Like how how did this how did this get started?

Javier Well, this happens apparently a lot like the whole drone contraband thing. And what I found interesting is that that the prisons, even if they see the drone coming, they can't shoot it down. Apparently that is like, uh, some gray area, some gray legal area for the prison. And it's becoming like a real big problem, drones and prisons. But this article that I read and I haven't done too much research on it, didn't say who the who the inmates were who ordered this, but, uh, I would have to buy. But I'm looking at a picture right now. You want to see. You want to see a picture of the.

Shaun Yeah.

Javier The goods. Yeah. Let me show you the picture of the goods because this is this is pretty awesome. They even vacuum sealed some of it. So, you know, to keep it fresh.

Kristen I love that there was old Bay with it.

Javier Yeah. Of course. Uh, a bottle of old Bay, a carton of marble, uh, a big, big ass bag of weed.

Shaun Oh, is that sweet? I thought that was a steak. Oh my God. Oh, now I see. Oh, my gosh, that is a big bag of weed. Wow.

Javier The the bag of weed, just to give the listeners an idea, is bigger than the steak. Okay. Yeah, the steak and the crab legs combined.

Shaun Yes.

Kristen I thought that was steak.

Shaun As long as that carton of cigarettes.

Javier Yes, yes.

Shaun That's the biggest thing in the picture is the weed, I guess. Yeah. Wow.

Kristen That is so funny. Who ate it? I'm guessing that the probably the cops ate it or the prison guards. That's diabolical.

Javier That's wrong. I wonder if they, you know, if they put any like, you know, dry ice with it or, like, how did.

Speaker 11 They have to travel?

Javier Yeah, probably not very far. But you know, in my area, there used to be like drones that would deliver ice cream. Do you guys have that where you live?

Kristen No.

Javier No, I.

Shaun Don't think so.

Javier Yeah. Yeah. Or drones. You know, they're getting better and better.

Kristen Delivers ice cream like you can order ice cream, and a drone will just deliver it to you.

Javier Yeah, it just delivers. It drops it right in front of your door. Yeah.

Shaun That's an important service that we all need.

Javier Exactly. Because you just never know when you're going to need a pint of ice cream. Right.

Shaun Yeah. You don't.

Kristen It's an emergency.

Shaun I love how it was the South Carolina Department of Corrections that that put that out in the world. I love that.

Javier They loved it. Come on. They're like, this is cool. All right, so when we come back, we are going to talk about this case that Kristen is going to talk about from Bangor, Maine, where she's from and, well, you're not from Bangor, Maine, but you're.

Kristen Close.

Javier Enough. Close enough. Right. And it is a doozy. I can't wait to talk about it. So we're gonna get into it after the break.

Kristen All right, so this case actually happened a couple weeks ago. It happened over Thanksgiving, and it's in Bangor, Maine. And there's not a lot of details on it that I could find, but that will change. We will get to that. Um, so a man in Bangor was accused of breaking into a family's apartment and opening up all of their Christmas presents, which I'm actually impressed that they had all of their Christmas presents ready to go on Sunday, November twenty fifth, this year, twenty twenty five when that happened. So apparently they did. And Joey Harvey, who's fifty, broke into their house and somebody called and reported that someone had broken into their apartment and was sleeping on their couch and refused to leave.

Javier But that's all we knew, right? Like that was.

Kristen Yeah. He made himself cozy.

Javier There was no names. No. Like, other than Jose Harvey. We had.

Kristen Jose.

Javier Harvey. Yeah.

Kristen Yeah. So the the tenant told authorities that they found all of their Christmas presents unwrapped, and then they see this man sleeping on their couch, and he couldn't provide any logical reason why he was in the apartment. And he was charged with aggravated criminal trespassing.

Javier And unlike Sean's, you know, bath salt guy. Or who was the bath salt person? Was that you, Kristen?

Kristen Oh, that was me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was the Ohio bath salt incident.

Javier Yeah. Unlike your bath salt guy, he did not decorate the place.

Kristen He did not. He just took. He did not give. He took. Yeah.

Javier Wow. Well, I don't know that this story really piqued my interest. I was just intrigued by the lack of detail out there. And so it Literally. Guys, I know that it seems impressive. It took me five minutes to write an email to the Bangor Police Department, and it was a very generic email. Like I, I didn't ask for anything specific, but a couple days later it didn't even take that long. A couple days later I get a zip file with like twenty one gigs. Okay? And I'm thinking, what the hell is in this thing?

Kristen I mean, that's Christmas, getting a FOIA where you have that many gigs?

Javier Yeah, that was like Christmas morning. And so I want to share with you what I found because you guys have not seen this.

Kristen I have not, and I love that you did that so much.

Javier Yeah. And, you know, this is such a silly it seems like a silly story, but it's about to not get silly because, you know, on the surface, we hear about these stories and and there's no detail and they sound funny. And we're doing this whole special on Grinches Christmas. But this is like a real person that this happened to And when you watch this footage, you're going to see how scary it is because the cops showed up right as the perp was still in the apartment. Okay. And so you're like, they showed up somehow. These people, the victims, kept this guy, Jose Harvey, in their apartment until the cops came. All right, so let's let's watch the footage. We start. There's multiple clips, right? And each folder has a different body cam from a different officer who responded even like the police dashboard. But this clip they were watching right now, is the officer, like, heading to the car? Like he's responding to the call? Okay, so he's arriving at the scene. It looks like like a townhouse apartment type of situation where there's like one front door. And then when you open up the door, there's multiple different apartments.

Speaker 4 All right. Okay.

Javier So let me, let me stop right here and just kind of explain to the listeners who can't see this what's happening. So basically, the officer shows up, he meets the the woman who lives in the apartment upstairs who made the call. They go upstairs and they walk into the living room and the the boyfriend is wearing his underwear. I mean, he's just like you could tell they just woke up. And this Jose Harvey guy is just standing in their living room. You could see all the Christmas stuff in here.

Speaker 4 Um.

Speaker 5 Let me in here.

Speaker 4 You guys live with anybody or. No. No, just. Beat it. Let's go. Okay.

Javier And this is what bothers me the most about this is that the cop shows up and he says, like, hey, get out of here. Scram! Okay, so now we're watching. We're we're watching video of them going, the officers following Jose Harvey. You know, the perp right here. He's following him downstairs, but I wanted to stop and kind of get your reaction so far.

Kristen First of all, I love that Josie is wearing a red plaid like buffalo red plaid because it kind of makes him look like Santa. Yes, like like a really creepy Santa. And he's also got, like, something green in his arm. Yeah, like a jacket.

Javier It's his. It's his jacket. But he's wearing a hood, right? Like, that's what kind of gives him the Santa vibe.

Kristen That. That face.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Javier He has a white beard, right?

Shaun Yes. He does.

Kristen He kind of looks like Santa.

Javier I just feel so bad for these people. Looking like he trashed the place.

Shaun Um, yeah.

Javier Like it looks like they have, like, a nice place. You know, they had the stockings up and everything.

Kristen If if if somebody broke into my house, though, and the police were on their way, I might. I might put pants on.

Javier I think so.

Kristen Like the fact that this guy is just standing there literally in his underwear.

Javier But, I mean, think about it like the fact that they were able to keep this guy in their living room. I don't think the boyfriend had time to go get pants, you know what I mean? Like, he can't be like, hey, hey, guy who just broke into our house and open up all of our Christmas gifts. Could you just stay right here while I go get dressed? You know.

Kristen I mean, he seems kind of cozy. He seems like the Jose guy. He seems kind of cozy. Like he wouldn't have left if the police weren't, like. All right, buddy, scram.

Javier And he's very chill like this. He's very chill as you're about to see. So. All right, let's play the rest of the video.

Speaker 4 Hold on, hold on. Who let you in here? Who?

Speaker 5 Champagne? Drink.

Javier He's saying champagne.

Speaker 4 So how did you end up in their apartment?

Speaker 5 I don't know, I used to sleep with everybody, I guess, but then I got, you know, he said Is it okay? I just got one open door.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Javier Somebody let me. Let me back up here. Clearly this guy, there's something. Either he doesn't speak English very well, or he's maybe on some kind of substance abuse, I don't know. He's not making himself very clear. He keeps saying champagne. Champagne? Let him in. The cop doesn't really know, so let's play the rest.

Speaker 5 I just love open Door.

Speaker 4 Okay. Somebody invited you in here to drink champagne?

Speaker 5 No. No, no. His name's champagne.

Speaker 4 Okay, so he invited you in to his apartment, and you stumbled into somebody else's apartment. It's completely unacceptable.

Speaker 12 And that's the part that just blows my mind.

Javier The cop. You know, he's like, why are you here? Who? Who are you wanting to see? He kept saying champagne. Champagne. And then he hands him his ID and then just sends him off.

Kristen Like he's like, just don't come back here.

Javier Yeah, don't come back here. Like. Hello. He was breaking and entering, but I don't know. What are your thoughts so far before we continue?

Kristen It's kind of like like the circumstances are really funny. But then, like you said, when you see it, it's a little bit sobering. Like this. Yeah. I mean, I would be fully alarmed if there was if this man was just in my house, and especially if they woke up in the morning, which it kind of like this is it looks like the timestamp is eight forty five a m. Um, so, like, he was probably sleeping in the apartment with them sleeping in it, and that's like, kind of my worst nightmare.

Shaun Yeah. Do you get the impression the cops know him or he has some kind of reputation with them?

Javier You know, it's.

Kristen Unclear to.

Javier Me like that, right? Like he's like Jose Harvey, almost like he knew who this guy.

Shaun Like he knew who he was, like, you're on, you're on, Jose. Like or whatever.

Javier Here he goes again.

Shaun Yeah.

Kristen I couldn't tell if he was, like, calling in to see what you know the station had on him, or if it was something like he was familiar.

Javier Yeah, I don't know, but there's a lot more like now. The officer, you know, the one that responded that we were listening to, he hands over Jose Harvey to a female officer and Jose Harvey goes out with her. Right. But now he goes back upstairs to check on the victims. So let's play the rest of this.

Speaker 4 Verse. What time did you guys go to bed last night. Yeah.

Speaker 13 So again there's a video I can show you the camera.

Speaker 4 What time does he come in here?

Speaker 13 There's no video of him entering, but there's a video of him walking around at seven, so I don't know how he got in.

Speaker 4 What, was your door locked or.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but there's no video of him entering. I get notifications on my camera for every movement. There's a video at one a m.

Speaker 4 And then where was he when you woke up?

Speaker 13 Uh, just. He was just laying on the couch. I came out to go to the bathroom, and he.

Speaker 4 She guys were in there.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 4 As far as we know.

Speaker 13 The next thing was at seven fifty six, he's just walking around.

Speaker 14 Oh, my gosh.

Javier There's a lot going on here. Like what? What are you picking up from that last clip?

Shaun Like, I.

Kristen Mean, they're terrified.

Shaun Yeah. They really hit them like that. That could have been dangerous. They feel really violated. They have. They're so confused, too. Like she keeps saying, like, I don't understand how he got in.

Javier Right, right.

Shaun So, like.

Javier It sounds like she has cameras everywhere. Like she could tell when she went to bed and he wasn't there. So that means he must have come in after they went to bed. But she's not sure how he came in because there's no footage of him coming in. And at this point, the boyfriend is fully dressed, obviously, because the situation seems to be under control, right? But she is shaken to the core, I mean, and understandably so.

Speaker 13 All of these Christmas parties were wrapped. Now they're all open and in use in the bathroom has been destroyed. And he moved things around and put things in storage containers in the bathroom that were empty. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So do you think he had any idea you guys were even home?

Speaker 13 I don't think so.

Speaker 4 I don't know, because I don't think he got.

Speaker 13 It like he went.

Speaker 4 Through.

Speaker 13 Everything.

Javier So she's just trying to figure this whole thing out. It looks like something's going on in the bathroom. Like the crawlspace door was open and one of the cats got out, and this is, like, just made a really bad situation worse.

Kristen Chaos.

Javier So now they're. Now they're looking for their cat. I mean, I just felt so bad. But again, there's like, this mystery of, like, how did this guy get in?

Speaker 4 Because I was going to.

Speaker 13 Open.

Speaker 4 The window. So that's open now.

Speaker 13 So that's.

Speaker 4 Open. That is my I.

Speaker 13 Think that's why it's not on the camera. And I think that's why it's broken.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Javier So that explains how he came in undetected. Right. Like he just snuck in through the window. So what ended up happening was that Jose Harvey wasn't like he was waiting for them to go to bed. He must have. They must have gotten home late at night, she said around one o'clock in the morning. They went to bed. Everything was fine. He wasn't there. And sometime after one o'clock in the morning, he snuck in through the window. Must have fallen asleep. And it was. It wasn't until the morning when he started, you know, opening up all the gifts and just messing up their living room. I think that once the cop realized, like, how messed up this was, he let me see if I could find this. He he realizes, okay, we gotta take this guy in, but I don't know why he didn't do that to begin with.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Stop and hold him. I think I'm going to take him on burglary.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Javier Duh.

Speaker 15 Three, two. Director fifteen.

Javier So anyway, in another body cam footage, you get to see where they apprehend him. They they take him to to the jail, and eventually he was charged. But it's just wild, you know, because at face value, this story just seemed kind of funny. Right? And like, now that we get this intimate look into what happened and not only like after it happened, we were watching it happen in real time. It's just it hits differently, I guess.

Kristen Yeah, it does. I mean, when you only have so many details like it, it kind of is like a funny story, like someone's in your house and opened up your presents and then reorganized your storage stuff in the bathroom, but then you, like, see the people and you see the impact. and it definitely changes it a little bit.

Shaun Yeah, for sure. And the way the officers side when he got in the car. Like, you could tell that even he was like, I can't even believe this is happening. Like he I think he even he really felt for them too and knew to take it seriously.

Speaker 4 So I'm going to read you your rights. I need you to say yes or no after each one, okay?

Kristen I just love that he. He's handcuffed and he's standing there with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth, like answering these questions.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Javier So that's it. Guys, I don't know if this, uh, made you, um, less or more in the holiday spirit. I'm not sure.

Kristen Definitely more.

Shaun Yeah.

Javier Well, thank you so much. This was so much fun. I'm glad we were able to make this happen.

Shaun Yeah. Me too. I look forward to more of this in twenty six.

Kristen Yeah, I have, um, an episode. I'll plug this. I have a Christmas crime episode. That's a two part. It came out last year. It is, um, about Bertha Cody on the murder of Renee Cody. And it is a true Christmas murder. If you want something that's a little bit, um, deeper dive and not as a little bit more nefarious and breaking and entering, but, um, it's a it's a very interesting story. It's from the forties. It's got showgirls, it's got affairs, it's got, um, everything. So go listen to that if you want some more Christmas.

Javier That's right. Murder she told. All right. How about you, Sean? What's going on with you and the rest of the year? What should people look out for?

Shaun John and I are going to release our annual missing at the holidays episode, because during the typical time on our podcast, we focus on stories out of Las Vegas. But once a year, around the holidays, we share, um, five or six missing person stories from outside of Las Vegas that either, um, some of our friends in the podcasting world have told us about that. We want to highlight and continue to keep their names out there in hopes that the families have answers in the new year. So we have we'll have our annual missing at the holidays episode, I think probably the thirtieth, December thirtieth, I think this year.

Javier So everyone go check out, uh, Sins and Survivors and Murder, she told. And of course, pretend if you're listening to, uh, on the other feeds and we hope you know, that you guys have a wonderful holiday and a happy New Year, and just take time to relax and start all over again in twenty twenty six. So thank you for listening and go and check out all of our shows.